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      "content": "Any update on this? Happy new year by the way \uD83D\uDE42",
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      "content": "@BreakingTaps Not sure what you're asking. `COMP`, `N+`, `P+` are separate mask layers. Are you suggesting just using `N+` and `P+` and calculating the `COMP` mask layer from those?",
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      "content": "oh I see, they are _actual_ physical mask layers. Implementation detail leaking to the user",
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      "content": "@BreakingTaps The N+/P+ region extend beyond COMP because those masks/process are not as precise.",
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      "content": "Moving this to general:\n\n@CatIsFluffy: Why does one of them have a padring inside the normal padring?",
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